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No Evidence Trump Supporters Carried Jars of Fake Vance Sperm to Rallies

No Evidence Trump Supporters Carried Jars of Fake Vance Sperm to Rallies

Claim:

Photos of Trump supporters holding sample jars labeled “JD Vance Full Family Kit” and containing a semen-like substance have documented a pro-Trump political phenomenon.

Rating:

Not proven

Context

While the photos do not appear to have been manipulated, Snopes identified several red flags that suggested they might be part of a hoax. However, we were unable to reach a true or false determination based on the available, inconclusive evidence.

On August 17, 2024, footage allegedly appeared showing Asset supporters holding medical sample jars labeled “JD Vance Full Family Kit” and filled with fake sperm that were released online. The photos generated several non-critical securities accepting as fact the hypothesis that it was a genuine political gesture.

According to the the oldest actions According to claims on social media, the purpose of these specimen jars was expressly political: to “mock childless women” and/or families like that of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, who conceived using medical fertilization procedures.

A message, posted by the X account @UsaCamy, had been viewed more than 1.4 million times at the time of writing.

@UsaCamy’s post was the oldest version of the claim found by Snopes, suggesting that the account is at least partly behind the claim. These photos were posted at 1:36 p.m. PDT on August 17, about 20 minutes before Trump’s scheduled speech at a gathering in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania.

According to OSINT analyst Elise Thomas on X, @UsaCamy’s profile picture (at the time of the viral post, although it has since changed) seemed to have been The account was generated using artificial intelligence (AI) software, and the account had been inactive for months before being reactivated a few days before the popular tweet. An AI image detector used by Snopes concluded that the profile picture was most likely generated using AI. The account owner @UsaCamy did not respond to our request to discuss the origin of the Trump rally photos on X.

The reports and social media posts referring to these “Vance Complete Family Kits” — as far as Snopes could identify them — included only six photographs to support the reality of the alleged phenomenon. Three of those photos appeared to come from @UsaCamy, while three others appeared to come from a Post on Reddit by u/pellebeez which was posted just three minutes after @UsaCamy’s post:

Snopes identified several possible indicators that these photos, while likely not manipulated, were part of an inauthentic effort to generate viral headlines.

Although the evidence is not strong enough to give this claim a rating of completely false, we have rated this claim as “not proven.” based on the timing of the first photos on X and Reddit, the location and apparent time those photos were actually taken, and information gleaned from the Reddit account responsible for first sharing three of the six viral photos.

Early social media timing suggests coordination

When Redditor u/pellebeez photos posted The user said the photos of “JD Vance sperm cups for sale to mock childless women” were “pulled from Twitter.” Only one of the four photos shared by pellebeez had been shared on X before — by UsaCamy — as far as Snopes could identify.

The fact that Pellebeez posted a photo from @UsaCamy — an account with few followers up until that point — only three minutes later suggests that Pellebeez may have followed or was somehow aware of the person behind the account. Additionally, given that none of the other photos Pellebeez allegedly “pulled from Twitter” appeared before the Reddit post, this suggests that Pellebeez was the source of the other three photos.

Additionally, the similarities between the items labeled “JD Vance Full Family Kit” in pellebeez’s photos and @UsaCamy’s photos suggest that they represent the same “product.” Pellebeez also did not respond to a request for comment made via Reddit’s discussion platform.

The photos are from a rally in Atlanta that took place two weeks earlier

Although the photos were posted at a time that might lead a casual viewer to believe they were from an August 17, 2024, Trump rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Snopes geotagged at least two of the photos to a parking at the Georgia State University Convocation Center, where Trump held a rally on August 3, 2024:


A second photo from pellebeez corresponded to a location roughly 50 feet away from the photo above in the same parking lot:



Pellebeez was associated with a similar claim dating back 4 months earlier

U/pellebeez was a prolific Redditor whose comment historylike that of all users, was public. In April 2024, this user spammed several left Or policy subreddits with posts from a website called “Dispatches from Trumpland”. This site had multiple items highlighting the apparent trend of Trump supporters wear diapers or flying flags that say “Real men wear diapers” at rallies.

In promoting Dispatches from Trumpland, pellebeez almost always referred to articles published on that website as “our article” or “my field reports.“Based on this observation, Snopes contacted Dispatches via a contact email listed on its site. “Are you pellebeez?” we asked the owner of that inbox.

“I am not that Reddit user you mentioned,” replied someone who signed their email as Eric. “We might be in the same Reddit or Discord circles,” Eric later added.

Eric told us that Dispatches was responsible for the viral spread of many earlier photos of Trump supporters allegedly buying into the Trump diaper rumors, but that the site only documented the “craziest trends” emerging from Trump rallies, and that it did not produce or sell any of the items featured in the photos.

Eric explained that most of the photos on Dispatches were taken by himself or by friends he sent to rallies to take photos on his behalf. Snopes asked him if he sent someone to photograph the trends at Trump’s rally in Atlanta on August 3, where at least some of the photos of J.D. Vance’s sperm cup came from, to which he replied, “I sent a friend to the Atlanta rally.”

What does all this mean?

There are several possible explanations for the facts presented here by Snopes.

First, the photos could have depicted a real phenomenon — pPeople are buying a complete JD Vance kit from a seller who has no connection to the desire to make headlines. In this scenario, someone else would likely have photographed people with the products.

Second, the photos could have been entirely staged – photos taken by and of people dressed as Trump supporters who went to his rallies to make Trump supporters look “weird.”

Ultimately, it could have been a combination of both: The photos could depict actual Trump supporters who legitimately purchased JD Vance Full Family kits without irony, but did so from someone acting in bad faith with the intent of making them look like idiots.

It has been suggested that a seller, whether or not connected to the entities promoting the photos, may be involved. Viral photos involving both layer content And The contents of JD Vance’s semen showed a vendor with an identical cart in the background.

In summary, the photographs of the “JD Vance sperm” phenomenon do not appear to have been manipulated and were taken at actual Trump events, but because the circumstances under which these photos were taken are opaque, we have deemed this claim “unproven.”

However, the limited number of photos illustrating this trend, their similarities and potential connections to past viral headlines, and the timing of their virality must all be considered before describing this as a potentially real or widespread phenomenon.